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Taser Debate, Round 12337478…

Posted by Rob on Thursday, 19 June, 2008

The following excerpts come from an article out of Dothan, Alabama’s Apparently a guy was stopped for not wearing his seat belt, tried to run from the police officer, got zapped by a Taser, and ended up in the hospital. So of course all these bleeding heart whiners are up in arms.

So lets break down the incident. “…we find this episode troubling, regardless of whether the deputy acted within the scope of departmental policy.” Of course you do…

“The undeniable fact is that a young man who was apparently in good health when the deputy stopped him for a seatbelt violation is now in critical condition at a local hospital.” Ok, let’s get this straight. A Taser is a compliance weapon, classified as Less-Than-Lethal. Not non-lethal. You get legally zapped with a Taser for non-compliance from a police officer, or in self-defense by an average citizen with a C2 that you are trying to rob, injure or otherwise do bad things to. Stop Resisting Arrest. Stop Trying to Hurt Me. No? ZAP!

Illegal use of stun guns, Tasers or pepper spray is not under debate on this post. A criminal can rob 7-11 or a unsuspecting law-abiding citizen with a stun gun, Taser or pepper spray, just as easily as a knife, hand gun, baseball bat, fists or his finger pointing through his jacket pocket. You can not ban every possible weapon in existance with the hopes of curbing violent crimes.

Squirt guns are non-lethal, you will not die from getting shot by a plastic water gun. Regular firearm hand guns are lethal weapons. There is a good chance you will suffer a lethal, deadly or otherwise not nice injury, that has a good chance of resulting in your death. Stun Guns, Tasers and other EMD type weapons are less-than-lethal.

So far, Tasers have not been “directly” linked to causing death immediate death to normal healthy adults. Perhaps “undetermined medical condition that was exacerbated by the Taser shocks” are possible. If your body is loaded up with drugs (you obviously have little concern of your personal well being anyways), a Taser jolt may cause more damage to you. If you have some weird, rare or unknown health, heart, or muscular condition, yes a EMD weapon might injury you more than temporarily. You could just get shot with a sidearm if you prefer…

“Perhaps he had illegal drugs in his possession, as the investigation suggests. Perhaps not. He was unarmed and trying to keep from getting arrested.” Yes, by running away, that is called resisting arrest in most jurisdictions…

“Perhaps he was also intent on harming the deputy. Or perhaps not. Reasonable people cannot condone Mr. Cody’s behavior. If he was not wearing his seat belt, he was breaking the law. If he had drugs, he was breaking the law. When he tried to get away from the officer, he broke the law. However, any person in Mr. Cody’s situation is presumed innocent until proved guilty. Should a fleeing suspect who isn’t a mortal threat to an officer be subjected to the potentially lethal shock of a stun gun? If not a stun gun, then what?”

Again, that is called resisting arrest. he is “presumed innocent until proved guilty” while he is standing there. As soon as he runs away, he is now guilty of resisting arrest. Should the police officer have just given up and said “Darn he is getting away… guess I have to wait for another bad guy…”?

“This matter delivers the inevitable debate about the appropriate use of stun guns like a bolt from the blue. Until the larger argument is settled — and the question will almost certainly be decided by the nation’s highest court — stun guns will cause far more injuries, both to suspects whose physical reaction cannot be fully anticipated and to officers who may rely on a device that may not be 100 percent effective.”

Ok, this use of a taser (not stun gun) was not out of the blue. Officers clearly announce a warning before deploying a Taser. The suspect was fleeing arrest, he was not going to stop. Police officers do not have the time to fully anticipate the physical reactions of some lunatic resisting arrest. Is he going to just run away? Is he going to run 10 feet and then pull a gun? Is he going to run 20 feet and alert 8 accomplices?

If you really want to walk a mile in the shoes of an average police officer and actually have a lick of sense when criticizing them, please sign up to a police academy, get trained, strap on your Taser and put your life on the line day in and day out. Don’t sit there and arm-chair quarterback law enforcement when you really have no clue what goes on and what it entails.

If some thug breaks into your house, or a drunk driver is pulled over before hitting one of your family members on the road, or some other criminal is about to commit a crime that affects you personally – and an officer subdues them with a Taser, I doubt you will be screaming “Don’t Tase Him, Bro!”

It would be nice to believe that nothing will happen to you, but the reality of it is that an ounce of protection could be worth more than a pound of cure. What is Worth Protection to you? Your belongings? Your family? Your personal well-being?

Yours in Safety,

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Beware: Attack Python on Duty

Posted by Rob on Tuesday, 17 June, 2008

A man in Bridgeport, CT as arrested after he attempted to order his 9-foot-long albino python to attack two police officers. Lucky for the cops, pythons rank near goldfish on the pet obedience scale. None-the-less, the 21-year-old man was charged with disorderly conduct and threatening the police after the incident.

The cops were called to investigate a call that the man was threatening his girlfriend with the pet snake. The building superintendent opened his apartment door for the police officers and the man allegedly threatened them with the animal and told it to “Get them!” Although the python did not comply with the order, the man was taken into custody and the python was relocated to the city’s animal control shelter.

I’m sure the officers shared laugh after the incident, it can’t be very often that a lazy “attack” snake is used to protect its owner from authorities. Even with laser sighting, it would be rather hard to taser a 9-foot-long python if it did become aggressive.

It would be nice to believe that nothing will happen to you, but the reality of it is that an ounce of protection could be worth more than a pound of cure. What is Worth Protection to you? Your belongings? Your family? Your personal well-being?

Yours in Safety,

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Guns Don’t Kill, People Do.

Posted by Rob on Wednesday, 4 June, 2008

This anti-weapon, anti-gun, anti-Taser babble is really getting ridiculous by all these ignorant bleeding heart liberals. Let’s get one thing straight, again…

Guns don’t kill, people do. Tasers don’t kill, people do.

It is not the weapon performing the action, it is the physical being behind the implement. You can be killed with a #2 pencil quite easily. You can be beat to death by a heavy glass bottle or mug. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE INANIMATE OBJECT IS! A knife is not going to stab someone by itself.

One of the latest stories coming out of New Zealand. This time, a man charges a police officer with a knife and is fatally shot. Are guns bad? No. Stupid people charging police officers with deadly weapons are bad. Give me a break.

The following quote in defense of the “justified and unavoidable” shooting was awesome. “You have been watching too many Hollywood movies if you think police are supposed to go into hand-to-hand combat and disarm the offender using a Stephen Segal move.”

But this story goes on further to criticize the police for use of excessive force. “Have the Queensland police never heard of Tasers or pepper spray?” was one of the comments. I don’t know, have the Queensland citizens never heard of not resisting arrest?

But wait, the other half of the media is reporting all the crybabies trying to ban the Taser because they are trying to blame a few deaths out of the hundreds of thousands of non-lethal deployments of Tasers in the field. So far, these taser-related deaths have been proven to be not directly related to the actual Taser. But what if 0.01% of the cases were actually Taser related? Aren’t those odds a hell of a lot better than being shot by a pistol?

The police have a job to do and everyone knows it. If you have yet to figure that out and decide to refuse to listen to orders, resist arrest, or attempt bodily injury on a cop then you typically have 3 consequences. His gun, his baton or his taser. None of the options sound pleasant, but realistically you get what you ask for.

I have watched tons of the YouTube videos and COPS shows on TV. Just about every clip when a Taser was used was a perfect example of why it needed to be deployed. Seriously, sit there and watch some. Guy/Girl gets pulled over for a routine traffic stop. Police approach and give a simple order such as “Can I see your license and registration. Stupid guy/girl refuses and starts yelling at cop. The police officer attempts to calm person down and warns he has a Taser if he doesn’t calm down and comply. Guy/Girl hops out of car still yelling and swearing, then aggressively runs towards cop. Cop tases guy/girl and arrests them.

Ok, I am failing to see why there are 100 YouTube comments complaining about police brutality after those clips. It was pretty obvious that most rational thinking people would not act that way or condone this type of behavior. If I am told by a cop I will get hit with a Taser if I don’t calm down, I tend to believe him, not test it.

Sure, there are isolated incidents when someone, police officer or normal civilian (doesn’t matter) uses a Taser or other “Self-defense” weapon with poor judgment. But again, it is not the inanimate objects fault. One bad cop is not a reason to ban Tasers, it is a training issue that needs to be corrected. That one cop in particular would need to be disciplined, retrained or fired. Not responsible for banning one of the most effective tools in a police officers arsenal. And some fool receiving justified and unavoidable force that happens to result in his untimely death, is sad, but also not a reason to cause such an uproar.

This is the same as the Anti-Gun Laws that people are trying to pass. Look it up. Many cases of the cities where restrictive gun laws are passed are high crime rates before and after. Listen to the following statement. IF YOU TELL A NON-LAW ABIDING CRIMINAL TO NOT CARRY A GUN, HE WILL CONTINUE TO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS AND CARRY ANYWAYS. If he actually decides to not carry a gun for whatever reason, the NON-LAW ABIDING CRIMINAL will carry a knife, baseball bat, #2 pencil or whatever other makeshift weapon he feels like and continue to commit crimes.

The only difference is the law abiding citizens will not be able to carry whatever self defense weapon is being singled out. News flash: the criminals do not care, or they would not be criminals. Is there less crime in Massachusetts because you can not carry Tasers, Stun Master Stun guns or easily obtain pepper spray or Mace? No. Is there less crime in DC because it is a Gun-Free Zone? No. Would those places be better off with weapons? Well put it this way, when there is less fear of retaliation or resistance, criminals has far less to lose when attempting to commit a crime. They already know you do not have a weapon to defend yourself with. They however probably do.

Gun Free Zones (and self defense weapon restrictive areas) mind as well put out welcome mats and post signs saying “We have no guns or self protection tools at our disposal, please feel free to enter at your leisure”. I’m sure those cars and houses with the gun stickers saying “This car/house is protected by Smith & Wesson” provide more of a crime deterrent.

It would be nice to believe that nothing will happen to you, but the reality of it is that an ounce of protection could be worth more than a pound of cure. What is Worth Protection to you? Your belongings? Your family? Your personal well-being?

Yours in safety,


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